Training a pet to aggressive - dire? - Guild Wars Forums

wolf1095 · Nov 27, 2010, 11:50 PM // 23:50

If training a pet to evolve to become and Aggressive pet then Dire, can it not die at all? Or can it die, but not alot? Thanks!

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 28, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07

To get a Dire evolution the pet needs to deal more damage than it takes. Dying wouldn't screw it up but if it's dying a lot you've got problems anyway.

RedDog91 · Nov 28, 2010, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Or you can not worry about the pet and just let it die over and over. It will evolve into hearty which you can then put in the Zashien Menagerie and talk to Wynn to spawn lvl 20 dire form.

ACWhammy · Nov 28, 2010, 06:25 AM // 06:25

I'm not sure if dying affects it. I believe it evolves based on the damage it does compared to your damage. If you want to level it to dire, you will have to let it do all the damage while you don't do any damage. Also I dont think you are supposed to heal it.

What red dog said is untrue, you can not turn in a hearty pet and get it back in dire form. You need to turn in a dire form, which will unlock all forms.

I have every single pet unlocked as Dire, most of them can evolve by death-leveling (Let them kill you over and over again - bring a hero monk to res you)

For the ones that can't be death leveled - Rainbow Phoenix, White Moa, and maybe 1 or 2 others - you will need to level them in the way I described in the first paragraph. Try to find some creature that only deal physical damage to fight. One of the desrt missions in prophecies spawns two minotaurs at the beginning which works great for this. Bring call of protection, feral lunge and a few more pet skills. I have a special build i used for this. If intersted pm me on guru

AC

Malganis · Nov 28, 2010, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by ACWhammy

What red dog said is untrue, you can not turn in a hearty pet and get it back in dire form. You need to turn in a dire form, which will unlock all forms.
AC

Uhm, yes it is true. I've done it several times. Turn in a hearty level 20 pet, and ask Wynn to spawn a level 20 dire animal that you then charm and turn into a pet.

Eragon Zarroc · Nov 28, 2010, 09:36 AM // 09:36

It has nothing to do with it's deaths, but it's damage received. The dmg output of the pet has to be much greater than the dmg received by the pet for it to become dire. One way to do this that i have employed is to let ur pet hit the practice dummies outside gtob for a while, and then go do ss/lb runs in wurms. ur pet will be dead the entire time it is gaining experience so that it doesn't receive any dmg while retaining the dmg dealt from attacking target dummies at isle. guaranteed dire every time.

Iuris · Nov 28, 2010, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Don't bother doing it that way.Train the pet to a regular lvl 20, take him to Zaishen menagerie, unlock the pet, then have them summon a lvl 20 of your desired specialization.

ACWhammy · Nov 28, 2010, 11:07 AM // 11:07

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Originally Posted by Malganis

Uhm, yes it is true. I've done it several times. Turn in a hearty level 20 pet, and ask Wynn to spawn a level 20 dire animal that you then charm and turn into a pet.

Ok sorry I'm not keeping up with my updates then. Last year they didnt have that option.

BrettM · Nov 28, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Both dire and hearty are considered evolved, while elder is unevolved. Turning in an evolved level 20 pet, either dire or hearty, unlocks the top tier. It has been this way since the day the menagerie was added, and updates have nothing to do with it.

frostkisses · Nov 28, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

or if you're really bored, or working on treasure hunter/wisdom...just kill the wurms outside boreal in HM. they're level 30's and do very little dmg. just bring a decent pet build and your lockpicks since theres usually 1-2 chests in the short run. havent had a pet anything other than dire doing it that way. if you have eotn that is...

Chthon · Nov 28, 2010, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Pet evolution parameters are unclear. Best guess is that it considers both ratio of damage dealt to damage taken and ratio of damage dealt by pet vs damage dealt by player.

In any event, it's FAR easier just to death level a hearty in the Menagerie and then check out a dire from the trainer.

Nov 27, 2010, 11:50 PM // 23:50	#1
wolf1095 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2010 Guild: Finding It Really Easy [FIRE] Profession: A/	Training a pet to aggressive - dire? If training a pet to evolve to become and Aggressive pet then Dire, can it not die at all? Or can it die, but not alot? Thanks!

Nov 28, 2010, 12:07 AM // 00:07	#2
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	To get a Dire evolution the pet needs to deal more damage than it takes. Dying wouldn't screw it up but if it's dying a lot you've got problems anyway. __________________

Nov 28, 2010, 09:36 AM // 09:36	#6
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	It has nothing to do with it's deaths, but it's damage received. The dmg output of the pet has to be much greater than the dmg received by the pet for it to become dire. One way to do this that i have employed is to let ur pet hit the practice dummies outside gtob for a while, and then go do ss/lb runs in wurms. ur pet will be dead the entire time it is gaining experience so that it doesn't receive any dmg while retaining the dmg dealt from attacking target dummies at isle. guaranteed dire every time. __________________ 11 ~ 8 ~ 11

Nov 28, 2010, 12:35 AM // 00:35	#3
RedDog91 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farming for Nick gifts Profession: R/	Or you can not worry about the pet and just let it die over and over. It will evolve into hearty which you can then put in the Zashien Menagerie and talk to Wynn to spawn lvl 20 dire form.

Nov 28, 2010, 06:25 AM // 06:25	#4
ACWhammy Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Guild: Gold Trim Guild [gtg] Profession: R/	I'm not sure if dying affects it. I believe it evolves based on the damage it does compared to your damage. If you want to level it to dire, you will have to let it do all the damage while you don't do any damage. Also I dont think you are supposed to heal it. What red dog said is untrue, you can not turn in a hearty pet and get it back in dire form. You need to turn in a dire form, which will unlock all forms. I have every single pet unlocked as Dire, most of them can evolve by death-leveling (Let them kill you over and over again - bring a hero monk to res you) For the ones that can't be death leveled - Rainbow Phoenix, White Moa, and maybe 1 or 2 others - you will need to level them in the way I described in the first paragraph. Try to find some creature that only deal physical damage to fight. One of the desrt missions in prophecies spawns two minotaurs at the beginning which works great for this. Bring call of protection, feral lunge and a few more pet skills. I have a special build i used for this. If intersted pm me on guru AC

Nov 28, 2010, 09:51 AM // 09:51	#7
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Don't bother doing it that way.Train the pet to a regular lvl 20, take him to Zaishen menagerie, unlock the pet, then have them summon a lvl 20 of your desired specialization.

Nov 28, 2010, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#9
BrettM Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2008 Guild: Fuzzy Physics Institute Profession: E/	Both dire and hearty are considered evolved, while elder is unevolved. Turning in an evolved level 20 pet, either dire or hearty, unlocks the top tier. It has been this way since the day the menagerie was added, and updates have nothing to do with it.

Nov 28, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13	#10
frostkisses Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wisconsin Guild: Cerberus Guardians of the [GATE] Profession: E/	or if you're really bored, or working on treasure hunter/wisdom...just kill the wurms outside boreal in HM. they're level 30's and do very little dmg. just bring a decent pet build and your lockpicks since theres usually 1-2 chests in the short run. havent had a pet anything other than dire doing it that way. if you have eotn that is...

Nov 28, 2010, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#11
Chthon Grotto Attendant Join Date: Apr 2007	Pet evolution parameters are unclear. Best guess is that it considers both ratio of damage dealt to damage taken and ratio of damage dealt by pet vs damage dealt by player. In any event, it's FAR easier just to death level a hearty in the Menagerie and then check out a dire from the trainer.